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#1 montambro

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 02:48 PM

Hey guys let me know what you think of the list.

I have just started expanding my BA. Love the Lore and play style of them. But want something different then the typical pod and assault zerg rush they are so famous for. I want to have a combined arms play style with a counter attack assault unit.

I have only played 3 games with them 2 x 2k games against custodies and night lords and 1 2.5k game vs word bearers. Ended up getting the wins from all three but in a fun exciting and not overly competitive way.

The armored breakthrough list will be tough with BA due to the limited vehicle units vs BA astartes units. But this list works well (6 astartes to 6 vehicle)


++ The Age of Darkness (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [3000pts] ++

+ HQ +

Chaplain [155pts]: Artificer Armour, Blade of Perdition, Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs, Refractor Field, Space Marine Bike with Twin-linked Bolter
. Consul: Chaplain

Legion Praetor [205pts]: Artificer Armour, Blade of Perdition, Bolt Pistol, Digital Lasers, Iron Halo, Mastercraft a Single Weapon, Melta Bombs, Space Marine Bike with Twin-linked Bolter

+ Elites +

Legion Veteran Tactical Squad [240pts]
. Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier: Dozer Blade, Iliastus Pattern Assault Cannon
. Legion Veteran Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Fist
. 9 x Legion Veteran Space Marines: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword
Marksman

Legion Veteran Tactical Squad [240pts]
. Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier: Dozer Blade, Iliastus Pattern Assault Cannon
. Legion Veteran Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Fist
. 9 x Legion Veteran Space Marines: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword
Marksman


+ Troops +

Legion Predator Strike Armoured Squadron [395pts]: Squadron Command Tank
. Legion Predator Tank: Dozer Blade, Lascannon Sponsons, Predator Cannon
. Legion Predator Tank: Dozer Blade, Lascannon Sponsons, Predator Cannon
. Legion Predator Tank: Dozer Blade, Lascannon Sponsons, Predator Cannon

Legion Predator Strike Armoured Squadron [240pts]
. Legion Predator Tank: Dozer Blade, Lascannon Sponsons, Predator Cannon
. Legion Predator Tank: Dozer Blade, Lascannon Sponsons, Predator Cannon

Legion Predator Strike Armoured Squadron [210pts]
. Legion Predator Tank: Dozer Blade, Iliastus Pattern Assault Cannon Sponsons, Predator Cannon, Pintle Iliastus Assault Cannon
. Legion Predator Tank: Dozer Blade, Iliastus Pattern Assault Cannon Sponsons, Predator Cannon, Pintle Iliastus Assault Cannon

+ Fast Attack +

Legion Attack Bike Squadron [225pts]: 5x Iliastus Pattern Assault Cannon, 5x Legion Attack Bike

Legion Attack Bike Squadron [225pts]: 5x Iliastus Pattern Assault Cannon, 5x Legion Attack Bike

+ Heavy Support +

Legion Fire Raptor Gunship [230pts]
. Four wing-mounted:: Hellstrike Missiles
. Two Independent Ball Turret-mounted:: Reaper Autocannon Battery

Legion Sicaran Battle Tank [210pts]: Accelerator Autocannon, Dozer Blade, Lascannon Sponsons, Pintle-mounted Heavy Bolter

Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Talon [425pts]: Legion Dreadnought Drop Pod
. Leviathan Siege Dreadnought: Armoured Ceramite, Iliastus Pattern Assault Cannon, Iliastus Pattern Assault Cannon, Leviathan Siege Claw, Leviathan Storm Cannon, Phosphex Discharger

+ Allegiance +

Legiones Astartes: IX: Blood Angels, Loyalist

Rite of War: Armoured Breakthrough

++ Total: [3000pts] ++

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#2 Birkebein

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 02:51 PM

I think the Blade of Perdition is already mastercrafted :)

Also veterans are not troops unless you have Pride of the Legion



#3 drweir4

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 03:00 PM

Couple of issues 

 

Veteran tacs are elites

 

There is an argument that you can't have rapiers in armoured breakthrough - tbh, its unclear rules-wise, but given the fluff of armoured breakthrough I'd personally not take rapiers in such a list

 

The heavy support squad have to have a rhino to ride in



#4 montambro

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 03:07 PM

ah man yeah that's totally my bad! I messed it up with transitioning from my old list to my new one. I will make the changes!



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Posted 17 May 2017 - 06:06 AM

I think the list is illegal as you have 10 Vehicles against 8 infantry units.

 

I would take at least one CC arm for both Leviathans as they are likely to face Spartans at you lines time to time.



#6 montambro

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 01:30 PM

Blood angels rules states they may not have more vehicle units then those with the legion astartes(blood angels) special rule. The squadron is one unit. So even with two tanks it counts as one for comparrison purposes.

Also dedicated transports like rhinos do not count against the total count.

So the preator, chaplain, apoth, 3 x rapiers, assault squad, 2 x marine squads is 9.

3 pred squadron units, 2 x leviathans, 1 x venator is 6.

#7 montambro

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 12:36 PM

After consultation with the radio free instavan guys I realized my list is borderline illegal. A lot can be argued about what classifies infantry and if jump infantry falls under that. Or if laser rapier batteries are artillery or infantry as well and would require a transport/dredclaw.

 

So made some corrections to the list. Still falls into the same flavor and probably more striking and fun to play in the end.



#8 drweir4

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 01:51 PM

It is very unclear in the rules, as it is for several others too

 

Whenever this sort of thing comes up I always try to err on the side of caution - that usually means the most restrictive interpretation so as to not gain any undue advantage

 

It very rarely is an issue in games, but given armoured breakthrough is one of the more "controversial" ROW it is usually best to play it safe

 

(ie just infantry in tanks)



#9 montambro

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 06:47 PM

Yeah I agree. Just sucks that there is no clear line and as a result, can cause friction in game groups... But I am not worried about it.

 

Just tough with blood angels already being overly restrictive with the amount of vehicles....

 

But the list will be fun to play and paint.






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