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#1 Loken

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 03:48 AM

This changes things dramatically for some weapons.  Land Raiders became better.  Spartans, oh yeah.

 

Lots of weapons got much better.  What are you excited about?


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Posted 11 May 2017 - 04:27 AM

definitely makes land raiders better. especially with d6 per shot. also makes certain mortis varieties supper cool. 16 shot mortis volkite or 8 shot autocannons.

im dying to know about damage though. if it rolls over to other models like AoS



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Posted 11 May 2017 - 04:27 AM

Spartans now become a genuine threat to kinghts and scout titans. 8 x S9 D6 wounds with a -3 save modifier. Pretty high potential to crank out 20 or 30 wounds a shooting phase.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 06:48 AM

But they can also be used against your Spartan so it might not be on the table for long

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 06:49 AM

Twin-linked does double shots, and combi weapons can be fired infinitely WHILE firing the bolter too...holy guacamole. Now the humble and usually overpriced Land Raider becomes truly dangerous, at 4 shots lascannon and 6 heavy bolters. Which now reduce terminator/power armour, instead of just saying "AP4, who cares?". Hell, a Fire Raptor with 12 HB shots at -1 rend per side sponson become unparalleled lawnmowers. Hopefully the infantry will have some way to survive all the lead going downrange, because most weapons just became a lot scarier than before. Unless you play badly armoured units like guardsmen, who don't get saves against most stuff anyway.

 

im dying to know about damage though. if it rolls over to other models like AoS

Has been written in an earlier article, discussing the lascannon. Damage won't spill over, as they wrote all the damage will be wasted on single-wound models.


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Posted 11 May 2017 - 07:10 AM

the Falchion and the Fellblade will become really painfull...


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Posted 11 May 2017 - 07:15 AM

Hopefully the infantry will have some way to survive all the lead going downrange, because most weapons just became a lot scarier than before. Unless you play badly armoured units like guardsmen, who don't get saves against most stuff anyway.

 

AFAIK the new edition was being developed with the intend to make the game faster. So maybe that is one of those aspects: Infantry will melt away under tanks like Predators, Land Raiders, etc.

 

And what is missing are any indications for points. Maybe the good old Land Raider is now twice a pricey as before or infantry is a lot cheaper.


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Posted 11 May 2017 - 07:24 AM

the Falchion and the Fellblade will become really painfull...

 

......and they weren't previously?  



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Posted 11 May 2017 - 07:35 AM

And what is missing are any indications for points. Maybe the good old Land Raider is now twice a pricey as before or infantry is a lot cheaper.

Of course, without points, special rules and the like, we don't know anything for sure. We'll only see once the codexes are out.


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Posted 11 May 2017 - 10:21 AM

Spartans now become a genuine threat to kinghts and scout titans. 8 x S9 D6 wounds with a -3 save modifier. Pretty high potential to crank out 20 or 30 wounds a shooting phase.

 

Flyers are about to get Fucked.....Combi-Weapons on Everything!

 

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Autocannon Predators, meh....Autocannon Contemptors, bye bye KHERES there's a new kid in town...Also Sicaran's....Tell me they get more shots, please.


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Posted 11 May 2017 - 10:36 AM

May need to consider how hard it will be to swap my fire raptors autocannons for quad heavy bolters... 



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Posted 11 May 2017 - 11:15 AM

I'm interested to see how flyers go but some are looking even deadlier. A xiphon now has four lascannons that should hit on a 2+ with strafing run (assuming BS5 becomes 2+) thats a pretty crazy tank hunter when combined with the rotary missile launcher.


Reaper auto cannons are now way better too!

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 03:01 PM

I'm definitely thinking volkite contemptors may be looking more likely in my AL army when I expand it!

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Posted 12 May 2017 - 12:27 AM

All this is speculating that weapon profiles will remain the same when the rules change. Which they almost certainly will not do. Or maybe each land raider will cost 500 points to go with their new power.
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Posted 12 May 2017 - 06:49 AM

ease up buzzkill



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Posted 12 May 2017 - 09:00 AM

Flyers are about to get Fucked.....Combi-Weapons on Everything!

 

LANDRAIDER PROTEUS - 200pts worth of face wrecking goodness!

Autocannon Predators, meh....Autocannon Contemptors, bye bye KHERES there's a new kid in town...Also Sicaran's....Tell me they get more shots, please.

 

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Posted 12 May 2017 - 10:03 AM

May need to consider how hard it will be to swap my fire raptors autocannons for quad heavy bolters...


A Reaper Autocannon Battery would get 8 shots if it keeps its profile of shots. I mag'ed them but I'm still standing by the RAB

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Posted 12 May 2017 - 11:25 AM

All this is speculating that weapon profiles will remain the same when the rules change. Which they almost certainly will not do. Or maybe each land raider will cost 500 points to go with their new power.


From talking to my local GW guy it sounds like the whole intention if for the game to become deadlier and and by extension faster.

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Posted 14 May 2017 - 07:45 PM

Deadlier is both good and bad, bad luck will be much more damaging e.g one bad roll and your X unit is gone...The opposite being true. It exponentialises the luck in terms of damage.
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Posted 15 May 2017 - 09:22 PM

Deadlier is both good and bad, bad luck will be much more damaging e.g one bad roll and your X unit is gone...The opposite being true. It exponentialises the luck in terms of damage.

 

Exactly. Sure you're doubling the shots but you're also lose the reliability of the reroll - same average damage but greater potential damage






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